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mazey vorstagg · Aug 19, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

They're different. I'll say that.

I've played both, although I have a month of GW then a month of WoW.

Wow is a slow progressing game, you work your way up levels slowly gathering items and skills. You really need a good group of friends to really enjoy it, but it's great fun when you get a group group and achieve legendary things! On the other hand you often get into situations where you simply cannot win (like a level 1 taking on glint on their own) because you've got to level up. It's not so skill based as GW but more time based. Luckily you'll never run out of anything to do.

I'd say get a WoW trial and play it. If you like the first 10 levels then you'll like the rest of the game. Trust me
I'd say get a trial of wow and play if.

AscalonWarrior · Aug 19, 2007, 07:53 AM // 07:53

I played WoW for a month, and quitted because IMO it took way too long to level up. Up to 5 days to get from level 25 to 26, I can't even imagine 60+

That's the main reason I stick with Guild Wars.

kade · Aug 19, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

It will be interesting to see this argument in one or two years when WoW has 1-2 more expansions and GW2 is out.

I'm curious to see if GW2 will be able to trump WoW in both PvE and PvP content or what direction it will take exactly (maybe more of a DAoC approach). Course there's always they chance that a new Blizzard MMO will be announced as well but I only see this argument heating up as Anet and Blizzard perfect their games and strengthen each of thier weaknesses

mattjenkins · Aug 19, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Hello. I have a question, and I'd really like some input from people that have some amount of experience in both.

I recently got a new computer, switching from a Windows OS to a Mac OS. Guild Wars is not compatible with Macs, so I didn't have a game to play... other than World of Warcraft, which I had just started. My older computer was incredibly slow and had tons of problems, but the graphics on this computer are A-MAY-ZING, so the only problems I ever have are server lag and the occasional disconnect.

But now, I have Bootcamp working on my Macbook, allowing me to reinstall guild wars if I want to. The problem is that I need to dedicate myself to one game or the other. If I split time between the two, I'll either end up being mediocre at both or spending WAY too much time playing and my grades (college sophomore) will suffer.

Which game should I choose? GW: EotN is coming out incredibly soon, but WoW: WofLK is not too far off. Game balance in GW was atrocious when I stopped playing, but I practically had an orgasm when I saw the recent skill updates. Which game will be more fun and rewarding to a PvP crazy gamer?

wow pvp is fun
guild wars pvp sucks (or it did when i quit)
wow will definately take up more time, but only really if you raid and do endgame pve. if you just pvp in wow you can moderate it very easily.

wow > guild wars, no question about it

Redfeather1975 · Aug 19, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

I would stay with GW, and concentrate on yer grades young man!
And save yer money for boooooze.
Yup.

Traveller · Aug 19, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Say it with me:

No. Monthly. Fees.

And there you have it.

(Good, detailed graphics and minimal grind needed are also things that you could say.)

sLiceR · Aug 19, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

since you bought a Mac, IMHO you should support Blizzard for making a cross-platform game.

ArenaNet seems like it doesn't want to put any effort in cross-os support, and prefer to keep developing in that closed DirectX shit, helping M$ to preserve their monopoly.

bapplebo · Aug 19, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

While I could go into a large, long rant about how WoW is so mediocre to Guild Wars I won't. Instead, I'll say a word and some sentences.

Word: Mesmer.

Sentences: Monk's take another step from the original "lul hael me plzz" format seen in many similar MMO's / RPG's. You get a choice to protect your target, and escape from the chance that your party member may die. And you get to heal as well! Priest in WoW is just "lol clik "greeter hael wen he r take dmg!!!", which is EXTREMELY boring, and stupid.

And don't even get me started into the gear = effectiveness debate.

Zedd Kun · Aug 19, 2007, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Even tho I "hate" WoW, I would go with that.. Much more to do.. But there is a lot of grinding and bad graphics.. I don't know if EotN can save GW for me, but you should buy that first before you make a decision.. (sorry, bad English)

JeniM · Aug 19, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

Parents pay stundents?

Hmmm right and parents can afford to pay the +£25k (that Uni is looking like it will cost me) off straight away, if thats true for you congratulations on being a rich kid but people in the real world need to try and keep costs down and while the monthly fee of WoW isn't a huge percentile of the total it IS a couple of drinks you could have in the real world and GW can be picked up and dropped at no cost so theres no pressure to play when you have alot of work or want to go out with friends

If you sit in your dorm all year playing WoW or GW you'll likely regret it but GW is more casual

(again my opinions, don't like them . . tough

)

jackie · Aug 19, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by bapplebo

While I could go into a large, long rant about how WoW is so mediocre to Guild Wars I won't. Instead, I'll say a word and some sentences.

Word: Mesmer.

Sentences: Monk's take another step from the original "lul hael me plzz" format seen in many similar MMO's / RPG's. You get a choice to protect your target, and escape from the chance that your party member may die. And you get to heal as well! Priest in WoW is just "lol clik "greeter hael wen he r take dmg!!!", which is EXTREMELY boring, and stupid.

And don't even get me started into the gear = effectiveness debate.

I normally ignore threads like these but people posting false information about something gets my attention.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Priest

Please don't spread something that isn't true.

DreamRunner · Aug 19, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by Alazardragoon

Auction house- Need I say more?
I could say 9million+ players but ok ill keep it English speaking non bot players so 5million players.

But you don't play with 9 million players. You only play with the amount of people with the server. I saw a big thread about people complaining that Azshara or whatever had an extreme low population and got so bad that people actually had to pay to move to another server. More $$$ to just do content within the game, with the pay per month as well.

I already explained this in another thread, and other issue's but I will just say this in some easy steps. I'm not going to go at it, like I did in the other thread. So yeah.

1. 9 million is a whole wide world of players
2. You are in regions. Europe, US, Asia ect, so its broken down
3. The population is further broken down into servers. U.S region is broken into 100+ servers
4. You got BOT as well like you mentioned

minor · Aug 19, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

IS Wows PVP worth the grind to get good pvp gear and the 15 dollars a month to use it? Not imo but as said play both see what you think.

HayesA · Aug 19, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Psst, if it's an intel based MAC, you can run windows fairly well.

Voltar · Aug 19, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

In regards to your gear: wand. And wait, 2-non trinkets? I see Ancient Crystal Talisman. Has it not updated that yet?

i.e. no your gear is *not* too good.

That's WoW in a nutshell. It was kinda fun to play for the first couple months then it turned into an obligation to play. After about 5 months, a 60 rogue and paladin/druid in the 50's I caught on to Blizzard's tactic. They put all your stats on the gear and then keep dragging the carrot-on-a-stick away. If you take the Bartle's test and find that you're a status grinder then go balls-to-the-wall for WoW. There's a lot more to do in that game and more options. If you feel maipulated by that then play GW.

Whatever you do, don't play on one of those PvP-gimped servers. Play on the real-world PvP servers. The most fun I had on there was when the level grind was broken up by people trying to gank me. Hunter and shaman pwnt by my lower-level pally! Ill never play WoW again though.

Komes I · Aug 19, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Game balance in GW was atrocious when I stopped playing, but I practically had an orgasm when I saw the recent skill updates. Which game will be more fun and rewarding to a PvP crazy gamer?

That part with orgasm made me laugh.
Back on question: If you love good PvP then there is no better than Guild Wars. But PvE in WoW is bigger, but that doesnt make it better. You see, Guild Wars has more intresting quests. It is not like: Kill tan rats and bring their tails or something in WoW. Plus EotN is coming out soon and it will provide you some great fun in PvE. So many new quests, armors and weapons. Plus you are student, so GW should be your choice. Why? Guild Wars is friendly to casual players plus it has no monthly fee.

Someone that played WoW more than me (i played 3 months and then i tried GW) should give you some good advices about WoW advantages.

Kakumei · Aug 19, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by jackie

I normally ignore threads like these but people posting false information about something gets my attention.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Priest

Please don't spread something that isn't true.

Shadow priests are pretty awful endgame; they're good for leveling, though.

Assuming this is what you're referring to.

Zinger314 · Aug 19, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

That's a nicely populated server, I'd switch guilds rather than wasting that character.

In regards to your gear: wand. And wait, 2-non trinkets? I see Ancient Crystal Talisman. Has it not updated that yet?

i.e. no your gear is *not* too good.

Reread what I said. Guilds won't give loot to newbies. Plus I couldn't roll on Shoulders, Chests, or Boots due to my already-superior epics in those departments.

The Wand is a lv. 70 green, and the only "upgrade" (actually a sidegrade) is a lv. 67 Blue. Color isn't everything.

The only update to that trinket requires 41 Heroic Badges. Right. It's kinda impossible to get a PuG since there's a tank and healer shortage (one of the things that I like GW is the Henchman system...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascalon Warrior

I played WoW for a month, and quitted because IMO it took way too long to level up. Up to 5 days to get from level 25 to 26, I can't even imagine 60+

Levels 20-30 should only take about 5-6 hours played (excluding rest XP), you must have been doing something wrong...

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Originally Posted by Dreamrunner

But you don't play with 9 million players. You only play with the amount of people with the server. I saw a big thread about people complaining that Azshara or whatever had an extreme low population and got so bad that people actually had to pay to move to another server. More $$$ to just do content within the game, with the pay per month as well.

That server was released right before the expansion. It was a risk to roll on it, as its fate was uncertain. There are now still many high/full pop servers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

Shadow priests are pretty awful endgame; they're good for leveling, though.

Assuming this is what you're referring to.

Not true. Most end-game raids bring 1 Shadow Priest for Shadow Vunerability (+15% Shadow Damage) and Misery (+5% Spell Damage), and in PvP, they are still quite formidable.

But jackie was likely countering the "all Priests do is spam one heal." Healing is actually quite difficult during the 4-6 simotaneous enemy pulls in the WoW instance end-game and on boss fights where bosses can kill casters in one hit (imagine Underworld without Protective Spirit)

Fluffyx · Aug 19, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Hello. I have a question, and I'd really like some input from people that have some amount of experience in both.

I recently got a new computer, switching from a Windows OS to a Mac OS. Guild Wars is not compatible with Macs, so I didn't have a game to play... other than World of Warcraft, which I had just started. My older computer was incredibly slow and had tons of problems, but the graphics on this computer are A-MAY-ZING, so the only problems I ever have are server lag and the occasional disconnect.

But now, I have Bootcamp working on my Macbook, allowing me to reinstall guild wars if I want to. The problem is that I need to dedicate myself to one game or the other. If I split time between the two, I'll either end up being mediocre at both or spending WAY too much time playing and my grades (college sophomore) will suffer.

Which game should I choose? GW: EotN is coming out incredibly soon, but WoW: WofLK is not too far off. Game balance in GW was atrocious when I stopped playing, but I practically had an orgasm when I saw the recent skill updates. Which game will be more fun and rewarding to a PvP crazy gamer?

Okay, I think I can really help you with this as I quit Guild Wars after playing it from its release to play WoW for about 8 months straight, I've also played the game on and off before.

WoW has lots of things you will enjoy, and others you will loathe. These skill updates and class balances you're used to in guild wars. If a class is broken you can expect blizzard to fix it, but they will fix it in 4 months maybe more. The best part is that they don't actually fix the problem they just make a few bogus changes and call it fixed.

The game is all real time, except for the 5man, 10man, 25man, and 40man instances. Most of your item upgrades will come from these instances and you're required to do them multiple times to get the drops you want.

Your items make who your character is, if you have bad items you will be labeled as a bad player, you won't be able to beat anyone with the higher end items, so expect to put a lot of work into your character.

Leveling is not so much of a problem as people make it out to be, with putting in about 4 hours a day of your time you can level to 70 in about 3 months, so I wouldn't really worry about this.

If you're playing on a pvp server you will soon learn that ganks happen and camps happen. I've been camped by people for over an hour while leveling the factions like to grief each other to no end.

As someone who played in a high end content raiding guild I can tell you that you will be mediocre in WoW unless you put a lot of time into it. The best gear you can get comes from raids. You can also pick up the arena and pvp sets which are good too but will take you a very long time to get. You can expect to put four hours or more into raiding every night, the game becomes monotonous and starts to feel more like a job then a game. Sure it can be fun it has its strong points and also its weak points but my advice to you is unless you're ready to put in a lot of time into WoW at the end of the day you will just feel no sense of accomplishment.

If you have any questions about what to expect in WoW I'll gladly answer them to help make your decision, I know how it feels to be caught in between these two games.

Might as well throw in my armory: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mug'thol&n=Sakray
I respec'd into ret from holy before I quit and my ret gear isn't that great but still. :P

jackie · Aug 19, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Sorry for going off-topic:

Yeah, I meant my previous post as a counter.
I'm just fed up with this exaggeration ''WoW = Grind, Most of the quests = kill x number of y objects, players divided into small servers thus making communication difficult'' etc.

People not willing to read reviews, wowwiki, fanforums, watch youtube videos about the game or actually play it past the tutorial areas? I've seen quite shallow negative comments about WoW so far.
I'm not trying to be Blizzard fan here but it seems bit like some are seeing red-light whenever WoW is mentioned, guess you can expect that in GW Forum but still, keeping things in realistic proportions would be nice.

Back on topic:
Choose the one that is most fun to play. I'm a student, play both games and still have time for work, friends & hobbies. You can really play WoW casually as well.